Prepping, Urban Farming and Homesteading
Episode 8 of the We Grow
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get your grow on welcome back to the
wheat growers show oh man episode 8
episode 8 8 is great so on Sunday for
those of you that didn't catch it we had
our first live show it wasn't ours we
were on with Lena yeah the preppers path
the preppers path yes not to be confused
with the prepper patch with Tony
Tanglers that's right this is on prepper
broadcasting calm yes sir she was nice
enough to have us on introduce ourselves
talk about us a little bit let us talk
about us a little bit Nick did most of
the talking
I didn't know such thing you talked a
lot about aquaponics too you freakin
Mike hog well and I will tell you that
the live chat is very cool they have on
prepper broadcasting on all of their
live shows in fact on our show as well
which is Monday's they have live chat
which is cool so I promised a couple of
people I would do a shout-out someone
get that out of the way right now
because I promised freaky and Jimmy D
distill Asst distill Asst sounds like
he's making he said he come on he said
you come on and teach us distilling Oh
which i think is a phenomenal prepper
idea of phenomenal self-sustainability
thing because you can make it out if you
use it for fuel yep use it for
antiseptic yes for bartering and of
course if things are really bad you just
get drunk and let it go yeah
that's one way of doing it right get lit
meet Jesus all right poor farm girl comp
grouchy and I know this guy we're gonna
have him on the show - radio prep and
see isn't guess where North Carolina you
got it oh he is gonna have a show on
prepara broadcasting as well very soon
from what I understand so a shout out to
all of you Jimmy I'm sorry if I messed
up that name there distills I assume
Jimmy yeah sounds like it's one of those
roman maximus gluteus ceed TI le SS yeah
all right anyways we've got some really
good guests on the show this week this
week this week ya know couple of more on
that Nick and Don that's our guest where
are no guests this week we're gonna have
a serious talk about self sustainability
about prepping about some things that
everybody should know and some maybe
some real world experience that Nick has
that I have kind of what he does and
what he plans to do if if he loses his
job if he if the grid goes down if the
economy collapses how are you guys gonna
live life maybe some things you haven't
thought about before i we posted a great
article and it's gonna be on our blog we
grow ours calm look at the show notes
and blog you'll see this really good
article on there about a lady who just
went through the ice ice storm back east
and they were without power for five
days did you read this Nick I don't know
how to read all right so this is some of
the things and I'll discuss this with
you since you haven't read it and see if
you can guess what do you think some of
their challenges were well if there's no
electricity that means water can't be
pumped right and so your water lines
wouldn't get to you if you're in an ice
storm and you have an electric heat you
don't have heat anymore right and even
in some gas-powered heaters you need
electricity to regulate it
now there's right there just
the comfort issue in the safety in the
the so these folks are members oh they
are they are Preppers that they've been
prepping for a long time they're fairly
experienced Preppers but I think one of
the interesting things that came out to
me was you were right they ended up
having water because I think it was
their son is also a prepper and they had
water from him because their well was
down but they were able to get water
that wasn't too big of an issue but it
was some of those snowing so you can
always just go out and harvest it
yeah and heat it up they don't have a
wood-burning stove they said that's
definitely on the priority list they had
even while you can and they were worried
about carbon monoxide during that time
they were worried about things like that
one of the really interesting things to
me was the light they said they didn't
have much light and you know wintertime
back east it gets dark early and things
like that yeah and they couldn't she
couldn't read their I've you know that
they have a whole bunch of books and
games and things but it would get dark
and they couldn't do anything so what do
you do without light I'd never given
that a whole lot of thought you know
okay we've got flashlights and LEDs and
all what are you gonna hold it like a
book light and and read and play games
over a flashlight you really need to
make sure you've got your lanterns
things like that and you don't want
to use that up when you don't know how
long you're gonna go so maybe solar in
that situation that well in charge some
LEDs true but you know in a winter storm
there's not a whole lot of sunshine
either right you'd be better off with a
windmill and thanks there you go a
windmill yeah so that I just found that
to be fascinating that some of the
things she was talking about getting
glow-in-the-dark knitting needles
because she wanted to knit but she
couldn't Oh in the dark knitting needles
yeah
that's not on my priority list but I
commend her for something productive in
the dark I know how to knit it's a
proper skill so I mean agreed I know how
to kill rabbits my wife will learn how
to knit yeah my wife does too
I taught her on top of the the list I
think is starvation you got to worry
about your food of course yeah so canned
food to start with especially in a
winter storm you've got that but then
we're going to talk about
self-sustaining and livestock in Arizona
we have to deal with the heat back east
you have to deal with the ice how do you
deal with that what are the ranges you
can have for the rabbits things like
that how might you keep them warm or
cool without grid power mmm
dehydration is probably number two on my
list if not number one being in Arizona
in the summertime dehydration is way up
there average families is 400 gallons a
day you know you've got to get that down
how do you get that down and how do you
live comfortably without smelling I mean
sanitary things like that cooking you've
got to do all that can you reuse the
water in cooking that you use to wash
things like that you know cuz you're
boiling it yeah yeah you're still having
particulates that are left over and it's
gonna add some funky flavors to your
well if you had soup something like a
big filter might might work yeah exactly
so I think things like that we've got to
worry about the elements indoor/outdoor
here's a question that's on topic but
yet very very far on the edge do you
personally do you drink your aquaponic
water I have just to show people that
you can okay is the taste it taste like
water
okay so it actually I mean it tastes
like it's not fishy or anything or weird
or stagnant or nasty or anything it does
have a dirty tastes like there's
minerals in it yeah I like it
almost like dirt yeah explain it I go
back in Wisconsin
my dad has a creek that runs right
through his farm yeah and I'd be out all
day long and you get thirsty and they
always say don't drink the water don't
drink the water because of this that or
the other they're afraid of microbials
and all this yeah well you don't know
what's upstream pooping in it true very
true well I'd always drink the water
because I didn't want to walk the mile
and a half back to the house and I tell
you that's some of the best water I've
ever tasted it had a little bit of a
dirt taste to it but I'd say it still
tasted better than Arrowhead oh yeah so
no I'm right there with you we had a
brook behind my grandparents house we'd
go play and you drink it all the time I
think with that you're more concerned is
there a dead animal up creek yeah
is literally water smells bad you're
gonna know yeah and it's not stagnant I
mean you know where this thing is of
course we had chemical plants all over
the place too so that probably didn't is
that why you have three eyes that my
three eyes yeah my favorite so if what
what we've talked about this before so
what are you preparing for personally
well first and foremost economic
collapse whether it be personal or
widespread everybody gets in a tight
spot occasionally with money and if the
spot is tight enough for long enough
you're screwed yeah you know so my wife
and I have figured out how much money it
would take us to live if neither of us
had jobs and how much it would cost to
stay in my house comfortably and I know
that figure and so so what happens if if
there is an actual economic collapse
let's say or even a grade down situation
you can't even access your cash so I can
but alright well you can most people
can't because their money is in the bank
I mean we keep we try to keep silver and
things for that do you do you keep
anything like that no my when I say I
can access it I don't use you know most
of my assets are physical items no I
don't keep I don't keep gold or silver
or anything like that but I have assets
that I can liquidate if needed in a
situation where yeah they would be they
would be usable in a grid down situation
they would be desirable in an economic
collapse right and not that I want to be
all secretive but you know there's I
really don't want any of you in years to
come around my house looking for this
stuff yeah I mean yeah we you know we
try to keep a roll of silver around
right next to the ak-47 for anybody
that's listening yeah exactly
the Bushmaster so that's the type of
thing that I want to talk about today
okay and I want to talk about live food
storage because that's what we're
pushing I want to talk about teaching
the community I've had a lot of people
say hey and I love this idea but can I
do it
how much time
does it take what am I getting into and
I know let's cover time how many what
are you doing right now at your house
personally growing prepping farming that
type of thing well we'll just cover
what's legal I'm just kidding I don't
grow anything illegally actually judging
by my CC and R's of the HOA yeah I am
growing stuff illegally
I'm not abiding by those rules and I am
ok with that
hopefully you guys are too but I have a
few ducks in the backyard that are
laying about an egg
they average like I think their average
is an egg every day seven days or like
five days a week roughly I can't get my
my ducks won't do that I get an egg a
day for about a week and a half to two
weeks
and then I get nothing for two weeks
okay and then I got an egg a day for two
weeks and then nothing now I don't have
a male duck and we're dealing louis
godets yeah the minor Muscovy stew and
these you get another mail or they hatch
a mail or you have fertilized eggs I
have a mail you can have I would love a
mail Muscovy oh look at that we did a
trade right on the show that folks is
how it works that's why one of the good
people yeah that's why you need to get
people on your community
exactly and that's I have my ratio as is
to females for every male Muscovy and
it's like a Beach Boys song back there
all the time yeah I have the two girls
one of them today hatched a black
chicken I doesn't have to be about race
with you hey I guess she was sitting on
this egg is a key I'll put a picture up
it's a cute little chicken but we
haven't we don't have any black chickens
of laying age so I have no idea where
this chicken came from I don't know how
I mean our rooster had a rooster passed
away a couple weeks ago so it had to be
by him the new rooster is too young yet
to do anything
we have no male ducks and this is
obviously a chicken and the chickens
that we had that we're that color are
not laying yet so I don't know where
this black chicken came from but we're
gonna find out I guess as it gets bigger
so we've got a new black chicken in the
house
we sold a bunch of them anyway go ahead
that's pretty cool
yeah but yeah I've got the Ducks I've
got the Muscovy is going
I also have an aquaponics system that's
under construction at the moment I it's
like a 600-gallon take on that together
yeah well it's just all I have is a
biofilter run and I don't even have any
grow beds or anything it's just it's
just for fish at the moment right and I
was able to maintain pretty good
nitrogen off of it because I was over
filtration by far we'll talk about that
that's that set up and ready to ready to
be added on to but my staple obviously
is rabbits I have a 15 by 8 foot shed
and in that shed I have 30 rabbits now
that is much more than my wife and I
need absolutely a lot more and by about
28 yeah by about 28 but those 30 those
30 breeding female rabbits and their
five boyfriends will produce a hundred
and fifty to a hundred and seventy-five
babies a month on average and with those
I can barter do you barter now with us
of course yeah in fact I am knocking on
wood here that I don't screw this deal
up just by mentioning it but I have a
friend of a friend that builds bumpers
and I just bought a Nissan Titan and the
member is it looks kind of girly and
it's just not it's made out of plastic
and I don't want to be the one taking
damage in an accident I want to be
dealing it so I'm having this bumper
built and it would retail for 16 to 16
hundred to two thousand dollars well it
just so happens this friend of a friend
is a rabbit
connoisseur he's a rabbit ear as Boyd
Craven calls us and he's willing to
trade so I am going to sell him I'm
gonna trade him some of my cages and
some of my rabbits and get him set up
pretty and I'm going to pretty much
straight straight up trade with him for
the total cost of the bumper
that's awesome and so yeah in a grid
down situation let's say you've got
somebody that's LDS and has a year's
worth of wheat and didn't think to have
any dry packed meat and you're raising
rabbits or quail and fish with those you
just go over to your friendly Mormon
neighbor and say hey how about a little
bit of protein for a little bit of your
carbohydrates and just trade up yeah now
are you you're gonna get the aquaponics
system go yeah right now you're not
using that so mostly are you doing any
gardening
I have Moringa planted ok that doesn't
count it doesn't well that's 40% it
counts count as a play Wow all right let
me get to the real question how much
time do you spend on those 30 rabbits
what does it cost you in time Oh 30
rabbits 15 minutes a day 15 80 and
that's because I'm out there
lollygagging and petting a few of them
if I had to haul ass and get everybody
fed I could do in less than five minutes
you know is that once a day twice a day
once a day once a day so you feed yours
once yep and then dude check on them or
anything well I mean I don't neglect
them but I'm I'm out there once a day in
the morning and then at night I'll go
out there - yeah so I feed him in the
morning and I go out there night and
shut their lights off around 10:00 so
I'd need to get a timer it's been it's
been nice going out there and checking
on everybody but I do need to get a
timer to shut the lights off so 15
minutes a day 30 rabbits yep and what
else do you spend your time at home
prepping doing things do you do canning
do you guys spend any time canning doing
anything like that not yet I mean we've
got everything - can and I know how to
do it we have a pressure cooker we have
large pots we've got all of these things
that we could can but I understand that
speaking of you mentioned the Mormon LDS
I understand that they have open canning
parties oh yeah and you know that was
really good that's a really good
resource around - and and these are open
parties apparently well yeah and some
learn and work and don't be afraid of
them they're not going to like try and
convert you and for those hardcore
Christians that are anti-war man we're
not going to try and steal your soul
from your point of view
but you know just if you've got a friend
that's LDS ask him about canning and
chances are one in three are canning
nuts
in fact my I mean when I'm they're crazy
about canning I shouldn't say canning
nuts because I'm nuts in a can which you
can do but anyway the like my mom was a
was a canning specialist for the steak
which is a group of wards which is a
group of people which organization
anyway but yeah I talk to talk to
somebody in the LDS Church and they'll
hook you up there's a cannery in Mesa
where you just go down there and
volunteer and then pay for the cost of
stuff and you end up with cans of of
instant mashed potatoes beans wheat rice
so as far as their budget prep oh yeah
that could be a phenomenal resource and
find something like that Facebook is a
phenomenal resource I know a lot of
people don't believe in Facebook but
those that don't you don't have to put
personal information on this thing no I
know out there and look for the group's
look for Arizona Farm swap Phoenix you
know backyard farmers all of these
different groups for us that we're a
member of and we actually have even
started one I know they're out there for
other communities oh you go look around
there's there are some groups called
swept swap we we throw a lot of our
aquaponics vegetables on the swept swap
slip swap yeah you mainly sell use
things it's kind of like Craigslist for
your local community garage sale door
through Facebook yeah it's pretty cool
my wife does it all the time you know
she might sell a little purse but we'll
put up bags of parsley because I so much
parsley growing and sell it for 2 or 3
bucks and or trade it for something else
so there's a lot of barter stuff out
there on Facebook Craigslist is another
example for those budget prepping yeah
definitely you know that's that's what I
want to talk about is time and what what
you do and how you do it I know with me
I've got the aquaponics we've got about
50 fish right now and they're we're
growing quite a bit of our fruits and
vegetables we've got strawberries
growing we've
parsley I've got mint amazing amounts of
mint chocolate mint spearmint apple mint
I think pineapple mint some different
weird mints hot peppers regular peppers
cantaloupes all sorts of things in there
the sugar snap peas my wife gets all mad
because I go out and I eat them all
before we humoring them in the house
because they're just so good
so my greenhouse i my morning consists
of walking out and feeding the fish I
take a look once a week at the water
that takes me an extra five minutes you
know test the pH test the ammonia levels
make sure everything's good I pretty
much know now bye you were mentioning
the taste I can actually smell if it's
off a little bit and I'll be able to
tell I then feed my quail gather their
eggs if there are any in the mornings go
out I feed my rabbits walk around the
back feed our chickens we're down to 20
ish right now because we've got we got
rid of a bunch this weekend then I'll
talk about the bartering with that in a
minute got rid of those feed the goats
walk back in the house
15 minutes that's it now once a week we
go out and we try to do it once a week
go out and harvest everything out of the
aquaponic system that maybe takes 10-15
minutes and then once a month I'll go
out and do a real good cleaning because
I right now I have quail in the
greenhouse and we clean all the pens out
and things like that that probably takes
us the kids get out there and help us
that's probably a good two hours
sometimes we stretch it to four because
we're having fun doing it and you know
we have the whole family out but don't
think of that as time costed I mean
that's costing you time you're with your
kids and you're teaching them how to
work yeah and I'll tell you not to sound
like an old man but kids these days
don't know how to work and I'll admit my
generation does not know how to work
that's you know the let's say twenty to
thirty year olds right now they're like
the first products of the vidiian age
like I don't know because I grew up on
video games to it I'm a bit older than
you yeah but I was outside playing most
of the time that's the things that you
had a transition your parents were
probably more like at all
that death box thing you just got out
there and play yeah yeah would TV didn't
raise us we raised our self outside yeah
so no I totally agree but you look at
the you know time even if you don't have
kids if you don't you know want to do it
the time that I spend in it with all of
the animals we have we have two dairy
goats four goats total twenty-something
chickens I don't know how many quail
right now I think I've got thirty sixty
eighty quail there abouts only a couple
breeders and in different stages of
getting ready for the meal and
collecting eggs and all that it's 15
minutes a day it really is not bad if
you if you roll that up I mean cost-wise
- it's not much so are you what are you
feeding your rabbits are you feeding
them pellets right now
actually no I have I have pellets
available for them but they usually
leave the pellets alone I actually
started feeding fodder you are feeding
fodder at this I'd say 90% what they eat
is fodder the other 10% is clippings off
of a tree that's going crazy in my
backyard so how much time do you spend
feeding them growing the fodder what's
that like okay so in the evening I will
turn on an episode of swamp people and
rents uh rents a can of of barley seed
and that takes like two seconds to just
rinse it and let it sit and then you
change the water out and let it sit then
you change the water out and you leave
it sit overnight and then the next
morning you feed a tray of fodder that's
grown for the last six days and then
you've got an empty tray that you just
rinse off real quick and you put the the
freshly soaked barley in that tray and
then you put it back into the fodder
system and if you go to hostel hair calm
underneath of the tools of the trade tab
or equipment I can't remember it's
equipment or tools of the trade you're
upgrading your website so not you
yes we're but in there you can see the
fodder kits and the one that I'm using
is the six tray the six tray will grow
15 pound
of barley fodder a day and it's a six
day process but you've always got the
process going from day one to day six
they overlap so you constantly have new
barley seed going in and barley mats
coming out
well 15 pounds of barley mauder feeds
all of my rabbits and then some so this
is the six tray fodder kit you're using
it looks like on your website it is 270
dollars yes that's pretty good now what
are you saving and food verse pellets
well it went from 78 cents a pound of
wrap per pound of rabbit meat down below
right around 12 to 15 cents a pound to
grow rabbit meat and that's live at 60
cents uh yes now 60 cents a pound so my
daily price is about two to three cents
per serving whereas when I was feeding
pellets it was 0.78 it was like seven
point eight cents so two eight eight
point two cents so you have basically
one fifty pound bag of barley mm-hmm
turns into 300 pounds of feed fifty
pounds fifty pounds times six because
for every pound that you put in you get
six pounds out okay if you so basically
you've paid for the fodder system in one
bag of barley pretty really close and
that's what 400 so 300 divided by 50 is
6 so 6 times 15 bag and a half
yeah 6 times 6 times 15 is what is that
you lost me so let's not do math on the
air come on anyway come on it doesn't
cost near as much as buying formulated
pellets now some will argue that pilots
are formulated for rabbits specifically
so you have to account for the minerals
and and the vitamins that they're not
getting but barley hits it just about on
the money if you have willow like willow
trees around and you could give them all
the willow that they can chew on they'll
get a lot of their fiber from the willow
as well as a lot of vitamins and
minerals and stuff and keep them keep
them regular and then give them the the
barley grass as well I've been using
Moringa stalks and this tree I'm not
really sure what it is I probably look
into that you know what about your the
rabbit eye price should ask you this
I feed mine broccoli a lot is that good
for them I'm gonna have to double-check
I think it's pretty high in calcium yeah
it is calcium too much calcium by a lot
I feed him a leaf of every few days okay
I don't think you're gonna have an issue
there you can feed them a carrot every
few days and be fine too okay carrots
are like a Snickers bar door to rabbits
if they're eating nothing but carrots
you can have issues through reading
nothing but broccoli you're gonna have
urinary tract failures even lots and
lots of alfalfa straight alfalfa if it's
not cut with some sort of Bermuda or a
Timothy or some other high-fiber grass
you're gonna get some some plugged up
bunnies yeah we are still on pellets at
this point we want to move into the
fodder system that's our next project I
know where you can get something yeah I
have to I actually have a 50-pound bag
of barley and we've done a little bit of
it in the house just in some trays and
you know just next to the sink squirt it
but so we're doing it once a week and
we're sending it out to the goats and a
little bit to the rabbits and it's cool
because they're eating the whole thing
including the root which is kind of neat
oh yeah and what people don't realize
okay if you feed grain to whatever
animal is 25 percent digestible seeds do
not want to be digested they want to be
planted they want to flourish they want
to reproduce so if you take barley which
has a hydrophilic acid coating I believe
I might be saying that wrong sorry but
this this acid coating keeps the seed
from germinating so that's why you pre
soaked it some people actually add a
teaspoon of bleach to their water you
can do that it's chlorine it will it
will come off it's about a 12 pH so it's
slightly
siddik water mixed with slightly caustic
will give you a neutral water right I
don't recommend using bleach you can you
can soak for 24 hours and be okay or you
can soak for 30 minutes with bleach and
be okay so it just it's a difference
between using pretty much I mean you
know we have talked about one point
using rabbit urine yes will that work as
well well it's a high pH and yes to some
extent it will work I just don't know
what what degree you want to mix them
gotcha
so the rabbit urine being a high pH
mixed with the low pH of the acid rather
than the shell of the barley will cause
it to sorry excuse me will cause it to
to open up faster so in an off-grid
situation I'm looking and this is one of
the reasons I'm looking at fodder
because even if I'm not going to use the
fodder system right now which I do plan
to but let's just say I buy it and I put
it together and I set it there yeah if
something happens I've got 50 pounds of
barley I've got a fodder system so now
in reality I've got 400 and about 300
pounds of feed I've got four goats
I've got chickens and the chickens
probably don't want to live just on the
on the fodder but they'll love it and I
think they can along with all the bugs
they'll get nervous house so I can then
set that there if I need it started out
they take seven days really to start
that thing pretty much so it's pretty
much a comment an instant seven days
after something happens I've got food
for all of my animals so I need to leave
seven days of feed on hand at all times
yes I would suggest more than that and
this is why if you're starting up barley
you don't want to go cold turkey off the
pellets and onto barley because you need
to give the rabbits
time to develop a different cecum a
different bacteria in their in their gut
if you if you just go straight from
pellets to you're going to it's going to
be an abrupt change you're gonna have
watery stool and different things like
that but back to why barley fodder is so
good 25% digestibility as a seed 80%
digestible as a
crowd so in the first day you've changed
from 25% digestible to 80% digestible
now on day two its doubled and wait day
three it's tripled in weight and so on
and so forth until day six which is why
that's six hundred percent that's great
again that as day six day seven it's
that much heavier yep and it's nothing
but water that's right because that then
that but that plan has come out used all
the nutrients from the seed that
contained exact which now you can digest
and get out exactly and so another
nature is amazing she is awesome so
that's why I went with water and also
another thing is if you're buying goods
good solid pellets they go bad within
four to six months because there's no
preservatives in it there's nothing in
it keeping it from being eaten down by
ambient bacteria seeds since they don't
want to be digested can be stored almost
indefinitely right as long as there's no
moisture in the air and you can get into
Ryan's rainy dark dry sealed and dark
they will not sprout so that what about
temperature do you know can i in Arizona
can I put it in a garage or something
with no AC is that an issue that's where
mine are right now this the seeds are
yeah the seeds the barley seeds I think
with anything heat is going to going to
increase metabolites metabolization yeah
I would keep them in the coolest spot
possible maybe a impromptu root cellar
right would probably be and you know I
we've actually talked about that one of
the things I have and we get into this
prepping thing right now we're renting
but we're renting a manufactured home on
a little over an acre acre and a half we
may be buying it we're still not a
hundred percent sure but I'll tell you I
love the manufactured home it's actually
built the quality of this thing is not
what you think of when you think trailer
it is 2x6 construction the two by six
two by six
what's the r-value on that it's I can't
recall it was it's a calf cone it's
fairly new so I know they billed to
these real
high standards of code for California so
we've been looking at different houses
saying okay are we going to do a
container house because we're going to
purchase some land and and build on it
we want to do this whole non-mortgage
thing so smart but with this I can go
underneath it you know and it's not just
I don't need a finished basement type
thing I mean I can have a root cellar
under there fairly easily a crawlspace
enough to get under there and store
things like you know in the summertime
it's cooler
I haven't actually taken readings down
there I'm gonna guess when it's 120 out
it's probably 95 down there so it's nice
and cool the wintertime it's a little
warmer it stays a little moister down
there I've crawled down there other than
spiders ever you know couple spiders and
we had some baby rabbits down there at
one point we've got you know it's not
really accessible and it's not a real
friendly place but as far as storage
heck I could see use in so much kind of
hole right and to my landlord I won't do
this but I could cut a hole right in the
floor and just boom have a spot you know
Drive already cut a hole in the floor
drop a you know some kind of storage
tote down there a 55-gallon drum and it
would sit right on the ground and I
could just fill that with anything I
wanted it'd be cool so you know there's
there's all sorts of ways to do this
thing so that's not a bad ideas putting
it somewhere like that yeah in fact when
I tell people the hostel hair slogan is
control what you eat from seed to me and
that's what I'm referencing you can
store seeds lots and lots of seeds for a
very long time you can can the seeds you
know you don't have to like pressure
seal the can or anything like that with
the seeds in it but you can seal them in
there and have you could set up little
jars so that you already know what the
measurement is you don't have to even
think about you just crack open a jar
pour it in the thing or soak it right
there in the jar that it's in and then
reuse the jars you do that all day every
day yeah just take a marking on a jar
and dump it in there so get dump it into
your fodder system yeah it'll be really
smart yeah fodder is definitely
something we're looking into
we don't spend a ton on food as it is
the rabbits I've
I got a couple of rabbits I'm getting a
new cage system very soon and where are
you getting that from done I know this
guy so I'm not gonna tell you because
you might get jealous now so now Mick is
gonna give me a new 66 compartment
system right now I've got three so we're
gonna kind of ramp up the rabbit
production so it's kind of fun but the
barley I think is gonna save us money I
think it's gonna save this time and I
think it's healthier oh yeah so and the
chickens absolutely love it the goats go
insane they there's nothing better they
can live on that ya know your raisin
black soldier flies aren't you we are
raising black soldier flies as well so
you talked about integration I mean this
kind of goes right into that well what
I'm saying is your chickens they're
they're gonna take the bulk of their
feed and barley fodder right and then to
up their protein levels you throw them a
few black soldier flies and you got it
and see we don't actually do that I
could save my black soldier flies for my
fish oh and sometimes for the quail
because the quail require a higher
protein oh so now what we are doing is
we're taking any of our leftover quails
any of our leftover fish even the bones
that we've cooked and our leftover table
scraps from any kind of dinners you know
your ear munch and on chicken and you
got that little bit of meat left on
there that you can't get off we throw
all that out to the chickens and they're
eating that they absolutely love like
the leftover meat on these things and
they pick bones absolutely dry I mean
there is nothing left on these things
plus they get to go out and run around
and get bugs so it's true that we throw
that there's our free-range
there's a ton of bugs there so we don't
want to put our black soldier flies to
me those things are worth their weight
in gold literally so I'd rather feed
those to my fish they're exactly what
the fish need to survive they're what
the quail need to thrive and to give us
really good eggs and then I can take
even some quail eggs and chicken eggs
and you know crunch those up and throw
them back to the chickens and they're
fine you don't want to get them in the
habit of eating their own eggs because
then they will eat their own eggs
however level rappers yeah in an
off-grid situation I would have no
problem doing that and we save all of
our eggs from our from our chickens and
our quail if we don't hatch them we save
all of those eggs and we grind all that
up and do we do put that back in the
feed for calcium oh so they're getting
that yes don't know it takes right the
only other thing that we would need from
outside the goats need minerals we have
a couple mineral blocks and they seem
but those are easy to store - yeah trace
minerals it's just a block and you know
like I said that'll last 2-3 months
sometimes so we're not too worried about
that and and the the milk is phenomenal
out of them and we'll give that milk
back to the chickens as well so if we
don't use it all what we whenever you
milk a goat you have to kind of the
first couple of squirts out you get rid
of so we will take that and put that in
a little glass or something pour it in
for the chickens and they'll they'll
look at that that actually increases our
calcium
why is it that you have to throw away
the first couple ounces my wife could
tell you that I don't know I just montón
it has something to do with an impotent
donor yeah I don't know I have no idea I
just know what to do I was told okay
he's a good boy he listens to his wife
that's right now I don't know if I gotta
go on this story of my wife was going
out of town and she I hate milking the
goat I just ate it so she's going out of
there so when Austin turns on the very
white well yeah yeah I just got this
thing I don't like doing it so we all
have to do things we don't like but my
wife says I'm going out of town and we
were at a prepper fest and my goat
expert Jill came by and she says oh well
you know you can make an automatic goat
milk or I said oh my god I'm going home
I got on the internet that night ordered
everything I have an automatic goat milk
do you really so all's I do as I walk
out there I see my sock let go I push
the button that I get I get the two
quarts of milk out of it so I I don't
mind it anymore
lazy yeah milking that goat is to me I
just do not like doing it my wife goes
out there and she's so fast at it she
can do it in a quarter of the time I can
so she's out there for five minutes and
he's gotten good now she does both teats
at the same time I'm down there you know
holding the go trying to get it in the
thing and old that I can't do it and
she's you know it takes her five minutes
takes it looks back over his shoulder
you doing it wrong well they could all
do the hey not there and then they stick
their foot in the damn now oh so I
stopped doing that I bought an automatic
milk or it's got a little hose I'd stick
it up boom I got no milk contaminated
it's clean I can bring it in and my wife
is happy so when she's out of town I use
the automatic guilt milk so it's awesome
yeah now off-grid that's battery-powered
so I'm still okay look at you and your
smartness yeah a little bit of solar
panels and you you know if you've got a
directional switch you can yeah okay
goat milk her on shut off goat milk er
thank you like a three horsepower and
drain that sucker at about three seconds
so you know the benefits we're talking I
traded some chickens this weekend um
traded five chickens to somebody for a
couple of silver coins Wow so managed a
couple of outs to Buffalo us over I like
silver so what was the I mean what was
the value of the silver well we did
three three ounces for five chickens I
have no idea what chickens are worth
just to be honest with you I think
silver like 30 bucks an ounce
22 I think at least on the I think
that's what I looked at 60 bucks for
three that's 20 bucks a chicken man no a
little yeah more it was five chickens oh
I'm gonna trying to the math my sellers
yeah so it's I think it was a good deal
the chickens are almost laying age at
this okay so there were pretty good
hands we had somebody pick another two
of them up for cash and then we gave a
couple of them to somebody else and we
traded some meat
so lamb meat I don't know if you've had
lamb meat but I traded we traded some of
them for some lamb meat as well so
that's the type of thing that we're
doing we're living that right now trying
to prepare for
great now if the time came that the
economy completely collapsed could we
survive
yeah and that's something we looked at
that article on on the five days without
power my wife and I go camping when we
take the three kids and we go camping
and we'll do a tent and my little five
buy a trailer we've got everything we
need we go for two weeks at a time no
problem but we go grocery shopping
before that we plan out every single
meal I was thinking you know if
something were to happen right now I
don't know I mean I know at home we'd do
two meals a day right now off of our
property as it is so how long could you
go comfortably can you do two weeks is
that what you're preparing for can you
do two in an actual off-grid you know
martial law declared after three days
everything's down EMP brings everything
down or solar flare or something let's
let's use that in an example well the I
have food storage of three to six months
so if I had to I could live off of that
and what about water water I'm actually
talking to a guy that that Chris Wray is
getting a machine that pulls water out
of the air yeah I don't know if that's
gonna work real well out here in the
summertime though is it yeah it's still
12 to 20 percent humidifier it's yeah
and all you have to do is wrap a bag
around it and pee in the sand underneath
of it you know and that's I know that's
kind of a gross sounding but that's how
you would do not gonna have any sewer in
that situation so yeah it's not like
it's not a the pipes are gonna go
anywhere beneficial to the community
anyway right and that's something being
in the city how do you deal with that
the way snow yeah what happens of the
sewer backs out well that's when things
get gross I tap into the front yard and
put an inground composter I'll put in a
septic tank that's one buddy can you do
that once it's already there once we're
at that point and you need it can you go
ahead and do it do you not have some
55-gallon drums and a shovel I don't
know I do yes mine are filled with water
but yes well that's a I have empty my
backyard looks like well it looks like
any rednecks front yard would
but I hate you a so it's gonna die in
the backyard so I have a few things
first off the trash isn't gonna come and
pick up so I can take those things cut
holes in the bottom actually no you
don't cut holes in the bottom you let
the hole you plug the holes in the
bottom put a leach field out into the
yard and bury it two feet under the dirt
holes drilled into PVC I've got PV you
can look up homemade septic yes them and
you just put in a septic system that'll
handle the amount of volume you're gonna
put how do you dig that deep out here
with the caliche and everything that we
end up with I can go down six foot no
prob Kenya yeah I know cuz they've had
the pad up yeah I couldn't see you
swinging a shovel I will hit you get
over here boy so that's my pond
yeah I've dug down six feet in my
backyard I've had to bury some people I
mean awkward so that's no we can't so
that's the type of thing that people
need to think about and that's why I
bring it up what happens when and it's a
great well I know I would do this but is
it too late at that point is it going to
you know you're you've been down for a
week when do you do this when do you
implement this stuff do you do it now do
you do it later well you you can't just
go and put a septic tank in your front
yard without a permit right and in fact
if you live in an H away you're not
gonna get a permit to put a septic tank
does that scare you living in an HOA in
that type of situation not really
because anybody in a grid down situation
is gonna still try and enforce HOA rules
gonna get the wrong end to the rifle so
I've not what are they gonna do tell me
that I've got oil spill to my driveway
when all hell's breaking loose on the
government level right well and that's
something with you know I'm a renter
right now I plan to be for another few
years until we can buy our property and
put our house on it so you know my wife
says oh we don't own our property I
don't think in a grid down situation my
landlords gonna come running which is
out of California yeah it's gonna come
running and saying hey I want the house
back because you haven't paid rent
that's kind of what I'm banking on
is okay if it's bad everywhere nobody's
gonna try and enforce petty laws they're
going to try and stop looters if that
and if they can't stop looters they're
gonna try and go home and protect their
families right so I don't think it's
gonna matter I if I grab a pickaxe and a
shovel and go into my front yard dig up
my sewer line and put in a septic system
there's not gonna be an issue in fact
look up anaerobic digestion divert
methane production very familiar with
that that is what I would do yeah well
and actually that's very similar to what
aquaponics us yeah except it's aerobic
digestion right right yeah so you're not
producing methane your co2 which is then
absorbed by the plants right right so
yeah there's a lot of a lot of stuff out
there so that's kind of what I wanted to
talk about on this episode I want to get
some feedback guys so we grow our Escom
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honestly we're not omnipotent but we're
pretty dang close
what is it word of the day is Amna - I
can't say it never right come on come on
say you say it omnipotent omnipotent
alright so that means all-knowing yeah I
know what it means I just don't know how
to say it there's certain words that you
know I know stuff about stuff I just
came from Z okay yeah so yeah do me a
favor say frustrating frustrating
I see ya daddy are you don't usually
yeah I'm always see that's what I get
caught on his daughter that daughter and
dog are the two words that people pick
on George the first one is daughter your
daughter Oh daughter yeah that one OC
kid honk okay let's see we have a word
for that that's called special yeah
special that's why we get along so well
so on to all of our Jersey fans I love
you guys and all my family
jersey is a beautiful beautiful state if
you've gone there other than NORC and
Elizabeth and some of these other places
you get down into the print Princeton
and and down into Flemington and
Somerville and bound brook and there's
rolling hills and Pennington it's
absolutely stunning
I grew up out there and I'll tell you
this still home
it is an amazing beautiful landscaping
state a lot of people think New York and
they think Manhattan but if you get out
on or on decks and the Poconos and I
mean there's some beautiful God's
country out there so well that's upstate
New York's all farming is it not oh yeah
yeah it's stunning out there Connecticut
is the same way a lot of New England
back east is you've got those population
centers mmm
but I think if things do happen people
are going to be even those areas really
soon and I would never want to be in a
city Oh No
yeah this I mean I believe that an
individual is smart working for himself
trying to solve problems individuals are
smart people as a living breathing
organism of more than one person tends
to be dumped because you get the sheep
effect where they're just kind of
mobbing together so try and make
individual choices absolutely
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some danger walking up to a guy that's
underneath of his truck though just an
FYI
he might be pretty involved you might
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feet or next to us walk up with a
six-pack of beer and say hey I come over
to help you out you're pretty good just
make sure he's not LDS cuz that just go
over horribly never even crossed my mind
to worry about that appreciate the offer
but you're all gonna get an earful
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anyway so should we do the plug of the
week yeah you've got a plug of the week
don't slug of the week Yeah right Nick's
got one this is going out to Rick with
coverall coding now these guys I he
actually does some metal work and I was
playing around with the frame on a
shippable cage I went over there he gave
me some great ideas he showed me some
taxes he even built an assemble a bull
cage system that I could copy and we
worked that out and actually bartered he
wanted some ducks and a little bit of
cash and ducks so it's not cash and
carry its cash and Muscovy remember you
just promised me one of those male
Muskogee's oh yeah it's already been
done that I have I have one in my back
yard you can have okay this guy anyway
so cover all coatings is the company and
the number to reach them oh I'm sorry
they do bed liners and I just bought my
new Nissan Titan the new rabbit truck
that's right it went from the white
rabbit to the brown turd but I'll have
to find some other name for it but this
is a big brown burnt red color but Rick
is gonna put a bed liner in it
and the price is pretty affordable so I
know there the Rhino Liners and those
types out there they can be about $500
or so for a truck like mine and Rick
came in low but way below that so
actually I think was like 700 what's his
number again it is for eight oh two four
two seven three nine two I'll get that
in the show in the show notes does he
have a website you know gosh you know I
I'll look it up if I can find one
awfully nice on Facebook - okay I'll get
a link to a Monday spoke and put that in
the show notes oh so if you're in the
the southeast Valley Phoenix area Elle
anywhere in town really I mean it's
worth the drive out there to get the
deal and he does fantastic work he
actually we played around with spraying
some of my pull out pans for the rabbit
cages and they looked really nice if I
had a larger order it would have been a
little bit more cost-effective on those
but there's just a lot of Labor involved
I bet but with a truck it's easy so some
about the plug of the week Nick and I do
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speaking of the plug of the week last
week I was talking about vape the
cigarettes uh-huh and I used the vapor
rage so I found a couple local shops
with that but on the chat it turns out a
lot of people out there are getting off
cigarettes and doing this so I've gotten
to meet a lot more people in fact on
that Monday night chat we were talking
about vaping is the term for it there's
all these weird terms for it and it's
now becoming a really more of an
expensive hobby did so it's so the
saving money part is gone for me but I'm
really loving it and I'm still not
smoking yeah last week Don had this cute
little black something-or-another and go
this week he's got this big silver like
10 inch it looks like a lightsaber it's
where you go anywhere else with what it
looks like it is a lit looks like a
lightsaber from Star Wars if so it's an
SVD luckily I do all of the editing so
yeah so if you've got the the ask us I
don't know where we're going now I can't
get my money honestly I will tell you
it's better than smoking absolutely so
if you've got a habit use it to kick it
and play with your lightsaber
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